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	<title>Comments on: Of Bowls, Warriors, and the Giving of Gifts</title>
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		<title>By: The Mitchell Blues (The Curse of the Mannino &#8211; Update) &#171; O&#8217;Ceallaigh &#38; The Quill</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mitchell Blues (The Curse of the Mannino &#8211; Update) &#171; O&#8217;Ceallaigh &#38; The Quill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or a university professor, for whom the success of his school&#8217;s football team is his last hope of ever getting his leaky, burned-out building fixed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Or a university professor, for whom the success of his school&#8217;s football team is his last hope of ever getting his leaky, burned-out building fixed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JUNIOR VARSITY BLUES &#171; O&#8217;Ceallaigh &#38; The Quill</title>
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		<dc:creator>JUNIOR VARSITY BLUES &#171; O&#8217;Ceallaigh &#38; The Quill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on a Friday night these days? To the local high school gridiron game match. To see Junior play. To support the home team. For a night&#8217;s entertainment – if you can call fighting for a parking place and a seat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on a Friday night these days? To the local high school gridiron game match. To see Junior play. To support the home team. For a night&#8217;s entertainment – if you can call fighting for a parking place and a seat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Let Us Reason Together - Emotionally &#171; O Ceallaigh&#8217;s Felloffatruck Publications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let Us Reason Together - Emotionally &#171; O Ceallaigh&#8217;s Felloffatruck Publications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] desperately needs to keep what&#8217;s left of the campus from crumbling to the ground. First, by creating a winning football program that would attract donations. Then, by campaigning for donations that the school desperately needs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] desperately needs to keep what&#8217;s left of the campus from crumbling to the ground. First, by creating a winning football program that would attract donations. Then, by campaigning for donations that the school desperately needs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Bad Jones In Paradise &#171; O Ceallaigh&#8217;s Felloffatruck Publications</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Bad Jones In Paradise &#171; O Ceallaigh&#8217;s Felloffatruck Publications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And in New Orleans, on New Year&#8217;s Day, the shoestring broke. Hell, it got sucked in, chewed to a pulp, spit out, and stomped on. And the Big Boys of college football will remember that wad, and henceforth, if any team not in the Big Boy Club dares to ask, they&#8217;re going to get told, &#8220;See that? You want to play ball with us, pipsqueaks, you&#8217;d better pay up.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And in New Orleans, on New Year&#8217;s Day, the shoestring broke. Hell, it got sucked in, chewed to a pulp, spit out, and stomped on. And the Big Boys of college football will remember that wad, and henceforth, if any team not in the Big Boy Club dares to ask, they&#8217;re going to get told, &#8220;See that? You want to play ball with us, pipsqueaks, you&#8217;d better pay up.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bread and Circuses &#171; O&#8217;Ceallaigh &#38; The Quill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bread and Circuses &#171; O&#8217;Ceallaigh &#38; The Quill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] might get the attention of a few dozen of you. About the same number who, the stats say, read about the (now) $225 million in deferred repairs to academic buildings at the Central Pacific university t.... Meanwhile, the ESPN webpage dedicated to the Patriots-Giants contest had 7,000 comments. Before [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] might get the attention of a few dozen of you. About the same number who, the stats say, read about the (now) $225 million in deferred repairs to academic buildings at the Central Pacific university t&#8230;. Meanwhile, the ESPN webpage dedicated to the Patriots-Giants contest had 7,000 comments. Before [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Mitchell Blues &#171; O Ceallaigh&#8217;s Felloffatruck Publications</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mitchell Blues &#171; O Ceallaigh&#8217;s Felloffatruck Publications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or a university professor, for whom the success of his school&#8217;s football team is his last hope of ever getting his leaky, burned-out building fixed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Or a university professor, for whom the success of his school&#8217;s football team is his last hope of ever getting his leaky, burned-out building fixed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: melli</title>
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		<dc:creator>melli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry OC... I couldn&#039;t think of a assaulting cereal!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry OC&#8230; I couldn&#8217;t think of a assaulting cereal!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: oceallaigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>oceallaigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cap&#039;n Crunch wasn&#039;t much of a warrior, melli.  But I take your point.  My leaky office roof will join you in your support for the UH gridiron side.

TLP, I read that Penn State fought a five-year lawsuit to keep JoePa&#039;s salary secret (along with those of the university President and his cohorts, who probably had a whole lot more to worry about).  I&#039;m reminded of the case of Boston Bruins hockey player Ray Bourke, who made ca. $1.2 million annually and earned the ire of most of his fellow players because he made &lt;i&gt;too little&lt;/i&gt; (and, as the league&#039;s premier defenseman, thereby kept everyone else&#039;s salary down as well).    Although JoePa publicly proclaimed he didn&#039;t care whether his salary went public or not, I wonder if he didn&#039;t have &quot;depressing the market for his colleagues&quot; in the back of his mind.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/wreck_ramblin/2007/01/head_coach_sala.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a list of current &lt;del&gt;football&lt;/del&gt; gridiron head coaches salaries&lt;/a&gt;.  If Paterno really made only $500,000 in 2007 (the cited website pegged his salary at $2 million, theoretically as straight salary), I hope the good people of PA recognize that JoePA is doing their state a major good turn.  And know why Penn State will keep Paterno as their head gridiron coach until three years after he&#039;s dead.

Of course, the good people of PA could &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; stop going to football games, and start attending conferences on global warming, social justice.  And cheer on the students who are working for prizes in things like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nosb.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;National Ocean Sciences Bowl&lt;/a&gt;.  That will happen when curmudgeonly dogs turn vegan ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap&#8217;n Crunch wasn&#8217;t much of a warrior, melli.  But I take your point.  My leaky office roof will join you in your support for the UH gridiron side.</p>
<p>TLP, I read that Penn State fought a five-year lawsuit to keep JoePa&#8217;s salary secret (along with those of the university President and his cohorts, who probably had a whole lot more to worry about).  I&#8217;m reminded of the case of Boston Bruins hockey player Ray Bourke, who made ca. $1.2 million annually and earned the ire of most of his fellow players because he made <i>too little</i> (and, as the league&#8217;s premier defenseman, thereby kept everyone else&#8217;s salary down as well).    Although JoePa publicly proclaimed he didn&#8217;t care whether his salary went public or not, I wonder if he didn&#8217;t have &#8220;depressing the market for his colleagues&#8221; in the back of his mind.</p>
<p><a href="http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/wreck_ramblin/2007/01/head_coach_sala.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a list of current <del>football</del> gridiron head coaches salaries</a>.  If Paterno really made only $500,000 in 2007 (the cited website pegged his salary at $2 million, theoretically as straight salary), I hope the good people of PA recognize that JoePA is doing their state a major good turn.  And know why Penn State will keep Paterno as their head gridiron coach until three years after he&#8217;s dead.</p>
<p>Of course, the good people of PA could <i>also</i> stop going to football games, and start attending conferences on global warming, social justice.  And cheer on the students who are working for prizes in things like the <a href="http://www.nosb.org/" rel="nofollow">National Ocean Sciences Bowl</a>.  That will happen when curmudgeonly dogs turn vegan <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: tlp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee.  I&#039;m truly surprised at the salary of the UH coach.  Joe Paterno made $490,638 last year.  In PA he is considered God.  (Not by me - although two of our daughters spent their 4 undergraduate years up at Penn State and loved it and the football.)

I gasped when I learned just recently how much JoPa was paid.  I thought it was way too much.  

The bowl games go to the teams that can draw the TV audience and the paying crowd.  Penn State does both. Even when the team is horrid. 

I have no use for the college football system, and the ivy league isn&#039;t much better.  Daughter AP3 went to Cornell for undergrad and Harvard for graduate school.  I have to say that the &quot;student athletes&quot; at those schools didn&#039;t appear to study much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee.  I&#8217;m truly surprised at the salary of the UH coach.  Joe Paterno made $490,638 last year.  In PA he is considered God.  (Not by me &#8211; although two of our daughters spent their 4 undergraduate years up at Penn State and loved it and the football.)</p>
<p>I gasped when I learned just recently how much JoPa was paid.  I thought it was way too much.  </p>
<p>The bowl games go to the teams that can draw the TV audience and the paying crowd.  Penn State does both. Even when the team is horrid. </p>
<p>I have no use for the college football system, and the ivy league isn&#8217;t much better.  Daughter AP3 went to Cornell for undergrad and Harvard for graduate school.  I have to say that the &#8220;student athletes&#8221; at those schools didn&#8217;t appear to study much.</p>
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		<title>By: melli</title>
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		<dc:creator>melli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  And to think I came here thinking we were going to be talking cereal and Captain Crunch ... 

CONGRATS to University of Hawai&#039;i!   I hope they WIN that Sugar Bowl!  (don&#039;t need it for my Captain Crunch anyway...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  And to think I came here thinking we were going to be talking cereal and Captain Crunch &#8230; </p>
<p>CONGRATS to University of Hawai&#8217;i!   I hope they WIN that Sugar Bowl!  (don&#8217;t need it for my Captain Crunch anyway&#8230;)</p>
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